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PostSubject: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:23 pm

1. alcohol is just a sugar.
To stop the brain chemistry that makes you want sugar,
eat protien every four hours - out side of the sleep cycle.
How much?
...about 20-30 grams

I recommend beef jerky because you can carry it easily.
Also, protien bars eaten with bananas and/or orange juice.


2.
to say that cigarettes will kill you is wrong.
you will die - period.
to say that cigarettes will kill you early is also wrong.
...too much eveidence to the contrary
to say that cigarettes will give you lung cancer is wrong.
...too many people who smoke do not get lung cancer


Am i typing that cigarettes are good?
HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what is bad about cigarettes is:

1. more addictive than heroin.

NO ONE needs a monkey on the back like that.

Just shoveling money at the tobacco-billionaires is disgusting


2. what is bad about cigarettes also
is that they are a FIRE HAZZARD
DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

STOP IGNORING THIS ONE DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Nicotine is the MOST vein-constictive substance known.
Part of the craving is the desire for constriction.
I recommend ice packs.
( and gum and patches and will power )
I'll type more later about lung cancer


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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:25 pm

good advice
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:26 pm

Do you see how I worry?
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:27 pm

indeed i do, i live in a house full of smokers and i worry about there health all the time.
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:28 pm

and i see what the consequences are aswell.
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:30 pm

OH, honey!

I feel for you!
Can you open windows or pass out ice packs?

Every one cigarette that they skip is worth it.

Smoking only halfway down is good too
because yucky stuff accumulates
as the smoking progresses downward
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:31 pm

More info:

smokers who exercise are healthier that non-smokers
who don't exercise.

It is important to share this one
because,
getting smokers to feel good
about something is worth it
and
getting them to start exercise is REALLY REALLY important.

Exercise is THAT important!
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:33 pm

yeah i have all the windows open in the house. but the person whom i live with is subscribed to something that they have to smoke, but i do all i can like sneakely throwing the packets away or puting them in water so they cant be lit.
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:40 pm

Oh, brother!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't waste money.

Do this instead.

Wait until the person is asleep and whisper in the ear this

"You LOVE not smoking."
5 times

and
"You have already quit smoking"

5 times.


It takes five times for the glutamate in the brain to fill up the receptor
and you must use the positive and present forms of the sentences
and the "you" pronoun
and
you must say it every day if possible
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:42 pm

ok i'll try that and get back to you when i have done it.
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:15 pm

The best way to quit is to not start at all
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:21 pm

yes but then you cant quit because there is nothing for you to quit that you havent started.
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:30 pm

excatly I never did like the smell of ciggeretts or alcohol even as a kid if I sensed that someone was drunk I was goneand No matter how cold it was in the winter I would open the windows as soon as I saw someone light up
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:41 pm

Hmm. It's like a time paradox, almost.

Quitting these things are hard for people.

One thing I've heard is that your unconscious mind can't understand negatives -- like "You LOVE not smoking." That notion comes from NLP, for what it's worth.
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:42 pm

cool
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:01 pm

E0N wrote:
Hmm. It's like a time paradox, almost.

Quitting these things are hard for people.

One thing I've heard is that your unconscious mind can't understand negatives -- like "You LOVE not smoking." That notion comes from NLP, for what it's worth.


Quitting cigs is different fro mbooze.
One is an additive contraction.
The other is normal sugar urge gone awry.


hmmm re: neg words.

How would you state it, Eon?
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:54 pm

I quit smoking due to anxiety issues, so I didn't have much of a choice it was either momentary pleasure or long lasting pain.
Pain is a great motivator.

Driking was NO problem to quit for me, I might have a allergy. It'd be rare I didn't puke Gallons & it would take me like a week to feel right again. I never really drank that much anyway.


Oddly the hardest thing to quit for me is coffee, I've quit for a few years at a stretch but it always gets me back somehow Neutral

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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:57 pm

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Nicotine is the MOST vein-constictive substance known.

Fun Fact: in Japan they load energy drinks with Nicotine, they consider it safer then the ephedrine & ephedra (Which is like one chemical proccess away from crystal meth) that we load ours with over here.
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:10 pm

Superhero wrote:
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Nicotine is the MOST vein-constictive substance known.

Fun Fact: in Japan they load energy drinks with Nicotine, they consider it safer then the ephedrine & ephedra (Which is like one chemical proccess away from crystal meth) that we load ours with over here.

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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:10 pm

Superhero wrote:
I quit smoking due to anxiety issues, so I didn't have much of a choice it was either momentary pleasure or long lasting pain.
Pain is a great motivator.

Driking was NO problem to quit for me, I might have a allergy. It'd be rare I didn't puke Gallons & it would take me like a week to feel right again. I never really drank that much anyway.


Oddly the hardest thing to quit for me is coffee, I've quit for a few years at a stretch but it always gets me back somehow Neutral


what is the problem with coffee?
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:44 pm

Nothing in General, I just drink too much. I here it even prevents cancer but I have NO moderation what-so-ever.

I have read a few articles on how coffee is bad for you, but for every one you find there's a article on how it's good for you. One article says it makes you gain weight by fulling up a receptor in your brain, the next article says it leans you out.

I do believe it lowers endurence a little (I read that somewhere) & can feel it durng Cross-fit & such. Not enough to hurt the work out, just enough to feel it.
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:00 pm

What makes coffee bad is if you use it to replace food
as people do when they worship thinness.

It is enough of a stimulant that people are not allowed
to have much when competeing in the Olympics.

If you would like to type up a typical day of food and your coffee consumption,
I'm happy to look it over for you and make minor suggestions
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:24 pm

Then it's really not as much of a problem then I thought it was. Laughing I eat my 5 & six small ones.

God I could never replace food with coffee Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:07 pm

too much coffee is the other prob.

2 and 2 later is plenty.

YAY for the BLESSING that is food!

I LOVE knowing about food and feeling it course through my body!



Here is what you want to know:
Coffee is a delivery system for caffeine,
a drug that lasts six hours.

Most people do not realize that
the droop that they feel in the after noon
is just the drug wearing off.

Map it out.
Keep it in line
and
love life.
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PostSubject: Re: quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption   quitting cigarettes and alcohol consumption Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:21 pm

I know two early....


when are the other two supposed to be? afternoon?
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