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Prof. Midnight

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PostSubject: Re: Best type of martial arts for a RLSH?   Best type of martial arts for a RLSH? - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:30 am

Depends on the person and their body.
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Well in my personal opinion, I definitely think that any grappling art would be extremely useful in being an RLSH. Most cops apply grappling-based skills to the job and I think we should as well. Simple take-down and immobilization procedures allow for maximum effectiveness without causing harm to the offender. And lack of injury to the offender will definitely help your case, if the cops decide to take you in for questioning or debriefing.
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I do not like to fight wrestlers.


They are technique-thinkers and very good at
nerve-spots


I don't like fighting Krav Maga people either.
whew!

Tai Chi is all defense and ruthless - very very good stuff
( PS. "Tai" means "very")


The stuff that police officers use HAS to work, very very good stuff
but they can hurt people if they need to
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Entomo wrote:
I heavily promoted Krav Maga in recent interviews, but I must say that Aikido works even better.
How have aikido worked for you? It seem to have a slow learning curve, so it might take a few years to become a decent beginner in the art. Another disadvantage is the kata style of training. There is difficult to know how it it actually will work when you get resistance and the opponent don't use ukemi. I unfortunately used it once, and kinda lost control over the amount of power in the technice. I'll imagine a hard style would give more control over the force used in a fight, so you don't have to hurt people more than needed to take them down.
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Diesel wrote:
Entomo wrote:
I heavily promoted Krav Maga in recent interviews, but I must say that Aikido works even better.
How have aikido worked for you? It seem to have a slow learning curve, so it might take a few years to become a decent beginner in the art. Another disadvantage is the kata style of training. There is difficult to know how it it actually will work when you get resistance and the opponent don't use ukemi. I unfortunately used it once, and kinda lost control over the amount of power in the technice. I'll imagine a hard style would give more control over the force used in a fight, so you don't have to hurt people more than needed to take them down.


I've been thinking of looking into Aikido myself. I like the idea of redirecting the opponent's energy, plus I'm a short, skinny dude so I don't think a brute force techniques would be the best for me to try (though I do have a green belt Shorin-Ryu Karate from my university days- but I havent practiced that in about 10 years).

I'd be interested in hearing people's thoughts on it for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Best type of martial arts for a RLSH?   Best type of martial arts for a RLSH? - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:56 pm

Once you know some, you can't take it back out of your head.

You BECOME a martial artist.

Aikido is subtle but truly aces.

My best input would be to study as much and as many as possible
but Aikido still comes out on top

In My Humble Opinion
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PostSubject: Re: Best type of martial arts for a RLSH?   Best type of martial arts for a RLSH? - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:48 pm

I have stated this many times before. When it comes to martial arts,it doesn't matter the style,it's the martial artist himself that determines the effectiveness. A master in one style can take a novice of another style. I know a bit of 4 different styles but if i face someone who is a master of one style,they probably hand me my butt. it's a matter of mastery not syle or form itself.
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PostSubject: Re: Best type of martial arts for a RLSH?   Best type of martial arts for a RLSH? - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:00 am

Some styles is easier to master than others. Aikido is one of the others. If you want to learn to fight/self defense fast, it's a good idea to learn something more agressive.

@Un-named_Hero
If you want to learn aikido you should start today. And in about five years you will a decent beginner. Being short can be a disadvantage in aikido because reach matters alot. It can be compensated with speed, reaction and technice (like anything else). Using the oppornents energy is a very good idea, but it takes alot of reaction and speed (and sometimes luck) to harmonize with an attackers energy. You won't be able to learn how most of the technices actually work in a dojo, for doing that will most likely give injuries (got surpised myself how those graceful gentle caresses became clumsy destruction).

@Blue Phenix
I agree on that it's more about the fighter than the style, but some styles develop alot of poor fighters. If you're gonna fight, learn to fight. Aikido is more of an art. The fact that you can use it in a fight is just a bonus.
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I've been getting into Systema lately. I fricking loooove it.
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@ Jack: that's Russian, right?
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Yep. It's the main art that the Spetsnaz are trained in.
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BTW, I'll put in my usual thumbs up for kali & JKD. Specifically the Inosanto blend. Effective and easy to learn.
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Kali has a lot to offer as does JKD. The flow drills in Soyoc Kali have been very beneficial to me.
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The conclusion on this topic could be something like this:

"If you start training when you are ten or younger anything will work. If you are gonna start training now, go for something easy-to-learn and reality-oriented."

Just a suggestion Very Happy

btw, my father-in-law is doing some skeet shooting, that's some awesome martial art. I'm sure he can beat anybodys kung-foo with that shotgun.
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In 25 years of studying martial arts,

EVERY person who has ever said that they prefer guns
to me
has NOT had one on them or in reach


I like your other conclusion
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For a real superhero: The 72 Shaolin martial arts
for example: gold bell shield, iron shirt, iron palm, Tree-Hugging Skill etc.

the chinese martial arts the best IF you don`t hold back (like eagle claw kung fu.. testicle rip off, eye attack etc.), the kung fu made to destroy the enemy like the other old martial arts.
If you want to capture the enemy, then the modern martial arts
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TREE-HUGGING!!???

OH!!!
I'm IN!


(seriously, yes, Chinese martial arts are great)
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The modern MA is a result of evelution, let's not forget that.
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Alchemist wrote:

the chinese martial arts the best IF you don`t hold back (like eagle claw kung fu.. testicle rip off, eye attack etc.), the kung fu made to destroy the enemy like the other old martial arts.

I think this is one of the true tests of a hero. When my dad was teaching me to fight, he told me it's easy to kill or maim someone. It's far harder to restrain yourself and do minimal damage. On a force progression scale, unless your life is absolutely threatened, making a purse out of someone's scrotum or a bowling ball out of their head may subject you to some pretty hefty criminal prosecution. And, with the publicity that this community is getting now, it would be the wrong kind of attention.
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Flora
tree hugging: "During training, the practitioner attempts to uproot a tree several times a day. Mastery of the skill is achieved when he succeeds in uprooting the tree" Very Happy
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Southern White Gibbon Praying Mantis is among those. I actually have those books on file.

I say Wing Chun. it's simple.... yet effective. triangular stance and motion fuse together to make an effective strike.

another wonderful Shaolin admonishment..... "In combat, the only time to jump is when surrounded by enemies....... then you jump over and out of your surrounding opposition."

Jar lifting and staff grasping are good to increase finger strength for styles like Eagle and Tiger or Praying Mantis........

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Myself find it harder to not hold back than holding back, so I guess the ju and aiki (bending and blending -ish) prinsiples is the only way for me to be able to take anybody down. The only way I've been able to hit somebody hard so far, have been with their own momentum (might have helped a little bit). And let's not forget about luck!

There is alot of impressive styles, but a RLSH need alot more skills than fighting. Should be able to read a educating book once in a while. So I'll stick to my conclution that the most important factors of a good fighting system is easy-to-learn and reality oriented. So you don't have to train it every day for years before it's usable for anything alse than dancing.
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I learned how not to hit people by learning to not hit them..... I mean. through practice and repetition I learned restraint and focus. I honestly never had a name for it until Eon said "no-punch"...... that fits perfectly. the art teaches discipline and self control, the artist messes the canvas up through impatience or arrogance. arts like Tai Chi (internal) have actually been linked to higher intelligence amongst it's practitioners than average.

Chi/Ki has been Christened "Bio-Magnetism" and is, according to what I read recently, said to have the potential to aid in healing yourself and others as well as enhancing the art itself.

there was also something about proper training of mind and body and it's effects on muscle and bone density while "in the zone" somewhere.

MOST IMPORTANTLY;
the Shaolin MONKS are men of peace that have risen up to defend their countrymen on more than one occasion (and subsequently suffered near annihilation more than once at the hands of those same countrymen) and are capable of some amazing feats that could draw the hell out of a crowd at a charity fundraiser......

just saying
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Alchemist wrote:
Flora
tree hugging: "During training, the practitioner attempts to uproot a tree several times a day. Mastery of the skill is achieved when he succeeds in uprooting the tree" Very Happy

( runs screaming to protect TREES from martial artists )
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My own background is in jujutsu, ninjutsu, karate, and boxing. Whatever you do, I highly recommend boxing in at least an ancillary capacity (so you learn to take a hit), as well as gaining some familiarity with an array of weapons--perhaps with some specialization. Guns are scary, but it's best to know what your odds really are against an armed assailant (Spoiler Alert: slim to none). Training in a variety of environments is important, too. The real trick will be to become a proficient fighter without sacrificing your humanity. But perhaps that is a topic more suitable for a different thread...

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